Should we save the turtles?

Today I had an interesting discussion on endangered species with a fellow student (‘Clarabel’). The background for the discussion was that I am involved in a research project where we study a fishery along the coast of California and Oregon in which endangered Leatherback turtles are involved. The turtles sometimes get entangled in the nets used to catch swordfish and die from suffocation. The project I’m involved in questions the measures taken to protect the turtles from increased risk of extinction posed by the fishing activity. This seemed to provoke Clarabel; it is supposed to be obvious, on moral and possibly other (socioeconomic) grounds, that any step necessary to reduce risk of extinction is warranted (this is an overstated and simplified statement of Clarabel’s position, but that is not important here; I could probably have had the discussion with an evironmental activist with the given position). One funny thing was that when we talked about a species going extinct it represented a huge cost to society because a lot of people cared about species not going extinct. When talking about the effects of the protection measures (for example, putting fishermen out of business), however, the socioeconomic effects did not matter because higher (or deeper) moral and ethical principals about preserving the biological diversity came into play. I was not able to properly put my finger on the inconsistency while discussing. (I’m not too smart; I’m bad at talking and thinking at the same time, or is it listening and thinking again? Or was it listening I’m bad at? I keep forgetting.) I see it more clearly now, however (it seems obvious when the two statements are put next to each other). You cannot argue for protection with the social cost, and dismiss the social cost when it comes to saving, because protection and saving are, at least potentially, two sides of the same coin.

I just had another idea; environmentalists may argue that the social cost of a species going extinct is enormous since it applies to all subsequent generation of the human race. Any saving operation, however, at least any realistically conceivable today, would have a limited cost in comparison. Logic has it, then, that enormous costs are already inflicted on us alive today given that most species that has ever existed are already extinct. This cost will also fall on subsequent generations. First of all, personally, I do not feel tortured when thinking about extinct species (it would have been cool to see a T-Rex, of course). Second, one more extinct species would hardly make a difference.

Just for the record, I appreciate biological diverstiy and realize it’s important in the ecosystem we live in and depend on. If all human activities that represent an increased risk of extinction of any species were to come to an end, however, I’m afraid most of what we today think of as human activities would have to come to an end. We would live in caves somewhere in Southern Europe or Africa (and we would have to get rid of quite a few people since we would not be able to feed everyone). When considering protective measures of an endangered speices, we also need to consider whether our time, eneregy and resources could be put to better uses elsewhere and on other problems. And what if protecting one species would pose danger to another? A strategy to raise concerns about endangered species in the general population (on a global level) could be to raise the living standards in developing countries considerably as attention to environmental issues such as biodiveristy seem to be highly correlated with the standard of living. (This may be related to the phenomenon called the environmental Kuznets curve; emissions of carbon dioxide, for example, seem to curb with an increased income level; are people more aware of the environment when rich?) A question then would of course be whether the process of increasing living standards (almost) everywhere would threat so many species that it would be better to leave things as are. (It may even seem easier to reduce the standard of living of everybody back to the cave level instead.)

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3 Responses to “Should we save the turtles?”

  1. Brother Says:

    Da handlar vel mest om å vera bevist på kva me gjer og kva ein er villig til å ofre for å oppnå noko anna. Kan ein bruke andre metodar? Kva konsekvensar får konsekvensane? Kva er bakgrunnen for aktivitetane? Kven tener på dette?
    99% av alle artar som har levd på jorda har døyd ut. Dette bør alle levande vesen på Jorda (som er nøgd med å eksisterer, slik verden er i dag) vere glade for. Tenker verda hadde vert noko annerledes med T-rex vandrande rundt på jorda (og den er ikkje den største av dei kjøttetande ein gong).

    Det kom ikkje så mykje ut av dette. Har ikkje tid akkurat no til å formulere meg på anna måte. Måtte bare komme med ein kommentar. Fekk mange tankar.

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